Recovery In Progress: BOFA EE

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It was really, really rough on me the other night. As many times as I’ve seen The Hobbit: Battle Of Five Armies, it seems that the conclusion still has the power to bring tears to my eyes. Many times over. When I saw myself in the ladies restroom mirror after the final credits had rolled, I was actually startled. We’re talking the puffy, bloodshot eyes, the spiky lashes, and a level of mascara-mess that could easily suggest I’d actually just attended a real funeral. Sigh.

I loved it, though.

There weren’t many in the theatre, though it was a better turnout than the previous two EEs. I think it was seven, including me. I guess the concession stand lady didn’t come through for last week’s candy-popcorn guy, because he didn’t show up. In fact, I didn’t recognize any of the other few people who’d been at the previous two, so I suppose I was the only one in this neck of the woods to see all three. As the resident Hobbit EE veteran, I was a bit worried when 7pm came around and it should have been time to start the Hobbit trivia stuff. The film was slated to start at 7:30pm, and both times last week that trivia reel began at 7pm. Instead, whoever was in charge of the projection room this week must have misunderstood, and began the trivia reel at 7:30pm. I didn’t want to wait through 30 minutes of that, so I took it upon myself to go and notify management that the film hadn’t started at 7:37pm, and thankfully he hustled off and we got to watch the computer screen fast forward through the rest of the trivia roll, and the feature presentation finally started at about 7:40pm. So yay for me! I guess it pays to be an “in-the-know” Hobbit EE veteran.

When it comes down to it, I think the EEs were better than the theatrical cuts for all three.  But my favorite of the new footage was definitely in the final film. (SPOILERS).

  • There was a more extended scene on the battlement as Thorin wrestled with the dilemma of whether to negotiate for the Arkenstone or “have war”… and Armitage was amazing in this scene.
  • The battle in particular had a lot more to it, including the fact that the dwarves and elves actually engaged before the earth-eater worms disrupted everything.
  • Legolas had even more over-the-top moves than we previously knew of. Give that elf a flying war bat, and he can take out entire companies of orcs.
  • Once Thorin got his head on straight and the company emerged, we got to see more footage of their battle “genius”… much of which was laugh-out-loud funny, with even the small crowd in our theatre making some laughter noise (which is unusual… seems easier to laugh with a big audience!)
  • For instance, Bombur belly-bounced orcs into submission, then had to be helped to his feet…
  • Bofur was an unexpected badass, evidently has some experience as a professional goliath-rider….
  • The goat-drawn chariot was fantastic! Balin had a great line there… I love the old guy! (Previously my favorite amusing lines in the movie went to Thranduil  (“I can see you know nothing of wizards. They are like winter thunder on a wild wind, rolling in from a distance, breaking hard in alarm.”) But I think I loved Balin’s simple line during the chariot scene even more. =)
  • And of course, there was also a bit more amazing athleticism and battle prowess than previously shown from Richard Armitage. All in all, the EE battle sequence was truly thrilling and spectacular.

I’ve included a few shots of the Durin funeral in the gallery above. It wasn’t very long, but it really got to me. Thorin, Fili and Kili were laid out on stone slabs with candles all around. Thorin had the Arkenstone set upon his lower torso, and looked as regal and heartbreakingly handsome as one would expect. However, it was the facial expressions of the hobbit and the surviving company of dwarves that had the most impact for me. Beautifully choreographed and performed by all involved. There was no excuse for cutting that brief minute and a half from the original. None.

I was really quite desolate at the end, sad that there would be no more big screen for the Middle Earth saga, and just as anguished about Thorin’s tragic story arc as I was last December. On top of that, I then had a pretty gut-wrenching day at work today as a follow-up. So I’m still rather trying to get my equilibrium back.

 

 

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50 comments

  1. Buffy Brinkley · October 15, 2015

    Still emotional. I honestly cannot wait to own it on digital HD on October 20 and then, of course, the much-anticipated DVD on November 17. Loved it! Loved your blog. Your slideshow made me cry. 😢😢

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      Yes, I wonder if the boxed set of all the EEs will be available in November… I truly hope so! I’m still emotional, too. But in a good way.

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  2. suzy · October 15, 2015

    Thank yo for the pics. This is the scene I have really missed !!!

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      You’re welcome! Not the greatest image quality, I’m afraid. Much better ones will be available after it’s officially released, I’m sure. =)

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  3. Andrea Númellóte Anđelić · October 15, 2015

    Well, I saw video of funeral on youtube last night (since Europe was excluded, like the rest of the world for tha matter – which is something I will not understand for the rest of my life :hmp:) and it left me wrecked, I could not sleep for a long time and when I woke up, Thorin’s name was first on my mind. And I absolutely agree with you, it should have been in the threatrical version; if not the whole 1:36, but maybe a glimpse of Bilbo’s remembering when he said goodbye to Erebor or when he smoked with Gandalf.

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      Welcome to commenting! I know! I certainly don’t think anyone would have been angry if the theatrical versions were less than 2 minutes longer! Grrrh! And TBH I think they went about the big screen release all wrong here, too, though I’m still really grateful that we did have the opportunity. It wasn’t well-promoted, and also to have such long movies on weeknights when most people have to get up and go to school or work the following day surely didn’t help, and starting at 7:30pm rather than 6:45 or 7pm also made for really late nights, especially for anyone who would have had to travel to see it since it was in so few theatres. All that said, it was well worth it, and I’m sorry the international community wasn’t given the opportunity to see the EEs on the big screen.

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  4. linnetmoss · October 15, 2015

    I can’t see the slideshow! Looks like I need to install javascript 🙂 If only we could have a good cry without the side effects…

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      Hmmm…. sorry about that! I wonder if WordPress has done something new? Out of curiosity, were you able to see the slideshows on some of my later Hannibal posts? Here’s the pictures that were in the slideshow!




      And yes, I can get slightly teary with no ill effects, but when I’m greatly moved, along comes the puffy eyes, the dripping nose, all of it. I guess I was greatly moved! =)

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      • linnetmoss · October 16, 2015

        I’m able to see the slideshows on your “Thrilling, touching, fitting” post… But even in this comment, the photos don’t appear for me. I’ll see what I can do about updating my software!
        I cry pretty easily these days. And then I wish I hadn’t because of the discomfort in my sinuses and eyes, which hangs over the next day…

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        • jholland · October 16, 2015

          Yes, I’ve had quite the weepy week. Between BOFA EE, work, and my audiobook (After You by JoJo Moyes) it’s been one tearful moment after another! As to the photos not appearing… I guess the software update is the only recourse!

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  5. Perry · October 15, 2015

    Thanks for this. I cannot wait to see the EE.

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      I already thought BOFA was great… this was even better! Oh, and I forgot to mention… this version reveals the fate of Alfrid Lickspittle (isn’t that the best name!?)… very fitting, I thought!

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  6. cinder · October 15, 2015

    I loved the EE, and was hoping that PJ would deliver on the funeral. That first frame of Thorin lying there with the Arkenstone was like a punch to the gut–I literally couldn’t breathe for a moment, and then when I could draw a breath I nearly started sobbing. I really can’t wait to see the EE again–I’ve preordered the iTunes download and the Blu-Ray as well as restocked my tissues so I’m prepared!

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      The very same thing happened to me… I lost my breath for a moment when I saw Thorin. The music during the funeral scene was also really haunting. I loved everything about it, though it tore me up.

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  7. Hariclea · October 15, 2015

    I can’t even look at the pictures properly it twists me up, saw the video as well and with the music it is just.. sigh…
    Such a pity they didn’t include that in the cinema version though if they had … i already cried really badly every time i saw it… Thankfully i am too much of a sleeper in the morning to be able to make the effort to put proper make up on, ie i never get round to the eyes and i do rub them a lot during the day bec of staring at a screen so i get a red nose and red eyes but no Panda look :-p

    But honestly seeing them lying there side by side and knowing it is the end of the Durin line just breaks my heart…
    Probably a good think in the end i will see the EE in the privacy of my own sitting room 🙂
    Thanks so much for sharing your impressions… deep sigh..

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      I generally do wear mascara, not because I particularly care what my eyes look like, but because if I don’t, I pull out eyelashes without noticing! The mascara smear on my finger alerts me and I stop! I would definitely recommend that NOBODY wears mascara while watching BOFA-EE, though! LOL. Re: Durin line… yes! I don’t know Tolkien’s work well enough to know if there was any chance Thorin’s sister having more children… or maybe an indescretion in Thorin’s past!?! It’s just wrong to think it’s wiped out altogether! Sigh.

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      • Hariclea · October 16, 2015

        i wish 🙂 but Thorin seems too serious to have been indiscreet, he seemed to always have been weighed down by his responsibilities.. as Kili and Fili have as well which i i guess why i feel for their deaths even more, because it feels like they never got to enjoy their lives…

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  8. Tessa · October 15, 2015

    I saw it in theater,but our location was sold out…Quite honestly, this version should have been the theatrical release one, no reason for it not to be, fans would have sat for it..The funeral scene had the theater goers sobbing, Dwalins face did me in…I loved this film, it was more complete, yet some scenes talked about by cast were not in this one either…..I went to work Wednesday with swollen eyes, but I did not care….Love my King Thorin

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      Yes… I distinctly remember I was prepared for the theatrical version to be about this length, and was irritated that it was shorter! I’m amazed that your location was sold out after the poor turn-out here and the fact that it was a weeknight. That’s great, though. I didn’t hear any sobs in our theatre, but sniffles I did hear. I can’t imagine anyone invested in the characters and storyline not becoming emotional, even in the original version. This EE amplified it tremendously (and with just a few minutes of additional footage). I can’t for the life of me understand how they decided to remove the funeral scene….

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  9. Servetus · October 15, 2015

    I was useless at work the whole next day, too. I didn’t call in sick out of a false sense of virtue but I should have …

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    • Tessa · October 15, 2015

      My hubby said to call out, as I did look just awful, yet I did not…That scene has always made me cry like a baby, but seeing the EE made it even worse, Dwalin with that “look”, just made it worse..i too could not focus all day, silly some would say…But not silly to me ………………………………. #heartacheathousondfold

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      • jholland · October 15, 2015

        Oh, yes. Dwalin and Balin’s faces just killed me. Actually all the company wore their hearts on their faces and it was so hard to watch. Literally, yes, caused my chest to ache.

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    • jholland · October 15, 2015

      I was met by a pretty tragic emergency right at 8am, and it did manage to distract me from my Hobbit-related melancholy, but certainly didn’t help my mood. Especially when we lost the battle at the end of the day. =(

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  10. Guylty · October 16, 2015

    Thanks for this, J – catching up a day late. First of all I am glad popcorn man was not there to bother you 🙂 And I can totally see that the EE of BOTFA was a tear-jerker. I re-watched BOTFA with my daughter last weekend, and for the first time I got really sniffly and teary when Thorin dies in Bilbos arms. (The previous times watching I had always been too annoyed over Thorin’s carelessness when gazing at Azog under the ice, that my anger hadn’t subsided by the time Thorin dies.) But whoa, I saw the funeral clip and it immediately brought tears to my eyes. I think I would’ve bawled in the cinema. So irritating that PJ felt this scene was expendable in the theatre release…

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    • jholland · October 16, 2015

      Oh, I know! And TBH, I was hoping maybe the EE would show us how it was that Thorin came to be divested of all his armor before joining the battle! That still bothers me! Why did he take it all off!?! Unfortunately, no explanation for that. And I know the feeling… every single time I see Thorin start to follow Azog as he floats beneath, I get the urge to yell at him! (And I can hear the sound he makes as Azog stabs through his foot, over and over in my head.)

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      • Guylty · October 17, 2015

        That was the thought I had when I saw BOTFA for the first time. Why the hell did he not fight in armour? And why was there no mithril shirt for him? Hmph.

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          Exactly my sentiments. Every time he presents the mithril shirt to Bilbo, I’m eyeballing it to see if Thorin could have squeezed into himself, instead. =)

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        • Guylty · October 17, 2015

          He totally could have. A bit tight around the chest, but hey, sexay 😉

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          AND, if he had gone to the trouble to squeeze into it, whenever it came time to get rid of all his armor, maybe he wouldn’t have had time to try to take it off. Because he probably would have needed lube for that.

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        • Guylty · October 17, 2015

          LOL – lube… now, there are connotations of another kind…

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          *gulps* We’re just going right down into the gutter together on 2 separate threads… wheeeeee!

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        • Guylty · October 17, 2015

          I know – but that’s the fun of it *sorry not sorry* 😀

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          Imagine if there was wine involved….

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        • Guylty · October 17, 2015

          I see quantities of red wine in our future, J!!! And lots of ‘below-the-belt’ quipping. I can’t wait 😉

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          *fans self at mention of below-the-belt* yes that was exactly what I was thinking. Quantities!

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        • Guylty · October 17, 2015

          I am ready 😉

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        • Andrea Númellóte Anđelić · October 17, 2015

          Since Thorin had to die (Tolkien, I do hate you for that, as well as for Kili & Fili), no armour was there to help him or to guard him. I don’t wanna think what fight would PJ invent if Thorin had armour on himself.

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          If that was the case, my question is why didn’t they just skip the armor in the first place? They could have appeared on the battlements in regular garb. To get all armored up and then take it all off just seems non-sensical (OK, I agree, Thorin was out of his senses in the lead-up to the battle)… but why wouldn’t one of the more sensible dwarves like Balin or Dwalin have reminded their King? (“Yes, we will follow you one last time. Just as soon as you put your armor back on.”) I tell you, these questions torment me. LOL

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        • Andrea Númellóte Anđelić · October 17, 2015

          Guylty – yes, a major flaw in the story. I have some thoughts or rather question about it, and maybe soon I will put it on the paper. Unless it would sound silly to my ears 😛

          jholland – it is interesting how this seemingly silly questions bother us, right? 😛 Maybe, that would be my guesses that a) being amoured in all that heavy stuff would be a disadvantage (though if a dwarf wields 2 axes with barrel around your body, this is pointless, but knowing you would be facing Azog, that must come to mind), b) Thorin wanted nothing gold on himself coming back to his senses – wanting to go ‘pure’ in the battle – this I like. 😀

          When dvd comes out, I will carefully watch appendices to see if there is anything about it. If not, I have a plan to find out 😀

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        • Servetus · October 17, 2015

          Wasn’t Dain wearing Thror’s crown in that last glimpse we saw of him as king? I wonder if he’ll be the next to catch the sickness.

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        • Andrea Númellóte Anđelić · October 17, 2015

          Golden sickness is hereditary in Durin’s line, in direct line. Dain was cousin of Thorin and after it’s death, became King under the mountain and king of Durin folk, first not in the direct line. He was good king – fairing with elves and men, and he was opposing Balin to reclaim Moria (he was right, unfortunately) and he died, age 252, while defending king Brand’s body in the Battle of Dale in the War of the ring. Dain was excellent ruler, it seems 🙂

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          Well, I’m glad Dain was able to resist. It did seem that Fili and Kili were more impervious to the gold than Thorin, though they weren’t inside the mountain for the same length of time as their uncle. I suppose it is a moot point, though.

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        • Servetus · October 17, 2015

          I guess it depends on whether the gold sickness follows the Salic Law (lol) — Fili and Kili are the sons of a daughter, not of a son in direct descent. I wonder if the dwarf physiology follows the rules of human genetics, in which case we might be inclined to guess that it is an x-linked trait, like hemophilia?

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        • jholland · October 18, 2015

          We think alike… I too was wondering if the fact that Fili and Kili were his sister’s sons might have spared them, though the term Salic Law was new for me! Re: dragon-sickness as an x-linked trait… you may be on to something! LOl

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        • Servetus · October 18, 2015

          I think it’s the kind of thing you would only know if you were a historian and even then only if you’d studied medieval history. A dispute over the Salic Law was one of the principle causes of the long-forgotten Hundred Years’ War.

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          I definitely thought it was the same crown. I wondered about Dain’s rule, too, especially in light of Gandalf’s comment to Bilbo along the lines of “don’t underestimate the evil of gold over which a serpent had brooded.” Seems anyone could potentially catch the sickness, though it seems Thorin succumbed rather quickly compared to all the other dwarves.

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        • jholland · October 17, 2015

          A plan to find out, hmmm? Yes, I kind of like option B… he had to reject the gold entirely and strip down to Thorin Oakenshield, who is NOT his grandfather.

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        • Guylty · October 17, 2015

          Yeah. I will dare to say what I thought when I read The Hobbit for the first time – a major flaw in the story! I sobbed uncontrollably (as my daughter, whom I read the story at the time, is fond of reminding me…)

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